QueenZone discussion #1436289

fr1986 wrote: and the links??

on my way up wrote: Thanks a lot. It's so obvious what they have to do in terms of releases: now that Hammy75 set, then in 2016 a new issue of the extensive Freddie boxset (to celebrate his 70th birthday) with new finds since 2000 included and also the 1988 Time live performance and The Great Pretender documentary. And also in 2016: an extensive Knebworth release with all audio and all available footage...(be it on or off stage footage).

cmi wrote: And what was the point doing mish-mash of two sources in the middle of 'One Vision' ?

pittrek wrote: I'll post a corrected CD 1 soon

pittrek wrote: Live Magic plays indeed slightly faster. The speed of the audience tape is the same as the speed of the single and the video sources if I remember correctly

The Real Wizard wrote:

pittrek wrote: Live Magic plays indeed slightly faster. The speed of the audience tape is the same as the speed of the single and the video sources if I remember correctly

Audience tapes are analog, so if anything it's those that are the wrong speed. I'm sure the official release is bang on. But again, there's Fun In Space on the Roger box set..

Nitroboy wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

pittrek wrote: Live Magic plays indeed slightly faster. The speed of the audience tape is the same as the speed of the single and the video sources if I remember correctly

Audience tapes are analog, so if anything it's those that are the wrong speed. I'm sure the official release is bang on. But again, there's Fun In Space on the Roger box set..

The 2 Budapest tracks, and the 2 Wembley tracks also play approx. 25 cents too fast, compared to the video releases :) We also know about their earlier experimentation with speeding up recordings to give the performance more "punch"

aristide1 wrote:

Nitroboy wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

pittrek wrote: Live Magic plays indeed slightly faster. The speed of the audience tape is the same as the speed of the single and the video sources if I remember correctly

Audience tapes are analog, so if anything it's those that are the wrong speed. I'm sure the official release is bang on. But again, there's Fun In Space on the Roger box set..

The 2 Budapest tracks, and the 2 Wembley tracks also play approx. 25 cents too fast, compared to the video releases :) We also know about their earlier experimentation with speeding up recordings to give the performance more "punch"

(also don't get the correlation between speed and perceived punch).

pittrek wrote: New link for CD 3 : link

hobbit in Rhye wrote: ^ I had no problems playing those 2 of the new CD3, unless you meant a subtler problem..?

Mr.QueenFan wrote: Just one quick question: Is the only difference the "One Vision" track? Thanks

bootLuca wrote: I'm the only one to have problems playing track 9 - vocal solo and track 15 - guitar solo of CD3?

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

pittrek wrote: New link for CD 3 : link

Just one quick question: Is the only difference the "One Vision" track? Thanks

dysan wrote: Here's a picture of Belouis Some and Freddie Mercury.

pittrek wrote:

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

pittrek wrote: New link for CD 3 : link

Just one quick question: Is the only difference the "One Vision" track? Thanks

There is an extra version of One Vision added, the "cunt" speech before Dust and all other songs after Dust are "shifted" to correct any possible SBEs .

Audio CDs hold data in minimum block ("sector") sizes of 1/75th second (0.01333 seconds / 2352 bytes of data / 588 stereo samples). If you try to burn an audio file to an audio CD, and its length is not an exact number of sectors, the last sector will usually be padded with digital silence (zeros). This gap is referred to as a "sector boundary error" because it is an error caused by a large audio file having been split into individual tracks at places other than sector boundaries (1/75th second intervals). As such, an SBE is a silence of less-than-but-not-equal-to 1/75th second found "between" audio tracks on a CD. I say "between" because technically it is at the end of the preceeding track and has nothing to do with the one that follows. In some cases, this flaw could be completely unnoticeable, as it could be only one sample, and could fit neatly into the current flow of samples. However, more likely it will leave an audible silence, or an audible click. The click is caused when the silence interrupts a "loud" part of the waveform, i.e. one that is not close to digital silence. The waveform makes a sudden jump from a loud value to silence, and then back up again to carry on when it left off. I'll add some images in a minute for clarification. Once you burn an audio CD with SBEs, the silences become part of the audio data - they won't disappear again if/when you extract back to your computer. An audio file extracted from a CD can never have an SBE because it's come from a CD and is as such sector-boundary-aligned. It should be noted that "SBE" has falsely become something of a catch-all term for anything that has a short (non-two-second) silence between tracks. There was an Ozric Tentacles show seeded on STG over summer straight from the master, which had silences at the end of each track that were maybe 0.05-0.1 seconds in length. I've no idea what the taper did to achieve these, but I've seen the show on tradelists noting "quite a large SBE between each track" - there's no such thing as a "large" SBE - it's by definition less than 1/75th second in length. If you wish to avoid creating files with SBEs, split using CDWave. For assured reliability, don't actually split the files - just save the cuesheet and burn using software that can handle cuesheets (CDRWin, newer versions of Nero etc). Thankfully, pure SBEs don't damage the audio data in any way, they just interrupt it, so with care can can be perfectly fixed by just removing the silence. The waveforms either side of the silence should automatically line up perfectly. TAO, and especially mp3 gaps, are not so easy to remedy as small parts of the audio data can be lost in the gap generation process.

pittrek wrote:

bootLuca wrote: I'm the only one to have problems playing track 9 - vocal solo and track 15 - guitar solo of CD3?

Winamp plays these files without any problems. Can you decode it to wav and see if it fixes the problems?

bootLuca wrote:

pittrek wrote:

bootLuca wrote: I'm the only one to have problems playing track 9 - vocal solo and track 15 - guitar solo of CD3?

Winamp plays these files without any problems. Can you decode it to wav and see if it fixes the problems?

Thank you for the help... It's really strange, Winamp doesn't even recognise these 2 tracks, so I can't decode them to wav!

pittrek wrote: Luca - try this file for the wav files : link

Nitroboy wrote:

bootLuca wrote:

pittrek wrote:

bootLuca wrote: I'm the only one to have problems playing track 9 - vocal solo and track 15 - guitar solo of CD3?

Winamp plays these files without any problems. Can you decode it to wav and see if it fixes the problems?

Thank you for the help... It's really strange, Winamp doesn't even recognise these 2 tracks, so I can't decode them to wav!

Use Trader's Little Helper to decode them to .WAV :)

pittrek wrote: SBE is a Sector Boundary Error. It's relevant only if you burn the files to audio CD's, cause every track has to have an exact number of sectors. EDIT : I found a pretty nice technical explanation on TheTradersDen : link .

Killer_queenIII wrote: Thanks a million!!! I just got Queen's set, and I must say it's a damn good merge. This can be a good audio track for the video recording.

Killer_queenIII wrote: I think there's an idea here somewhere: The audience video recording of Knebworth merged with whatever footages officially recorded, with two audio sources to choose from: your audio merge and the audio source from the aforementioned video recording. What do you think of it?

krantzet80 wrote: One question: The Rare live video includes bits of WATC. Are all these bits also avaible on Live Magic? It was a long time since I watched Rare Live, so I dont remember exactly how much of the song that is there..

aristide1 wrote:

krantzet80 wrote: One question: The Rare live video includes bits of WATC. Are all these bits also avaible on Live Magic? It was a long time since I watched Rare Live, so I dont remember exactly how much of the song that is there..

Do you really have a question? 3 bands, 4 CDs, multiple sources - there is the possibilty of something missing. But you have to point the missing part, not to rise a hypothetical question. Anyway, if "don't remember exactly" why do you care so much ?