| taptap 03.04.2014 14:27 |
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| taptap 03.04.2014 14:36 |
A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk: There are all kinds of different 'fans' here. 1. QAL fans (like Brian May, Roger Taylor and all those folks filling up the arenas for the 2014 Summer Arena Tour). 2. Adam Lambert fans (like Brian May, Roger Taylor and a whole bunch of others whether they could get tickets to the summer tour or not) 3. Queen fans who don't mind Queen collaborations as long as Brian and Roger are involved. 4. Queen fans who really hate any collaboration not including Freddie and John. 5. Non-fans who really can't stand Adam Lambert There will be serious/non-trolling threads here (usually from people in groups 1-3 above), and then there will be threads insulting Adam and his fans, usually posted by people in groups 4 and 5 above. There will also be trolling posts in the serious discussion threads. It's not really necessary to point out the trolling posts to the whole group - that will be pretty obvious to everyone, trolls and non-trolls alike. If you feel personally harassed, bullied, or hacked, it would be best to PM a mod directly, as no one on these threads can really do anything where trolls, bullies, and hackers are concerned, except ignore them. The QZ mods are YourValentine and Richard Orchard. If you want to debate with or just enjoy the trolling shenanigans, go ahead, but conventional wisdom states it's best not to feed the trolls. They'll always be here (and everywhere else online) but to feed or not to feed is Hamlet's eternal dilemma. If you decide to feed the trolls, you risk getting deleted or IP banned at the QZ mods' discretion. If trolling crosses over to fighting the risk increases (it's not rocket science). So feed the trolls at your own risk. |
| taptap 03.04.2014 14:41 |
How to recognize a Troll (they'll follow some version of this pattern): TROLLING 101 1. Find some fish These are people who are either naive, inarticulate, overly-emotional (i.e. passionate) about w/e, or some combination of all three. 2. Cast the bait Throw out speculation as a fact when you know it will annoy or incite your fish and hope they jump on your line. 3. Troll As soon as your fish are hooked, lead them down multiple unrelated paths. If they're naive or inexperienced enough, they might follow whatever argument trail you use, no matter how far afield it is from the original or how untrue. This can supply hours of fun for the troll, and if they're really good, days, weeks or months until they're called out or exposed or simply lose their prey (see items 4-6 below). 4. When you're called out, deflect Saying 'come on, you didn't think I was serious did you? Lighten up!' is always a good one. If the fish fall for that, be ready for round 2 of trolling. This is when it gets really fun for the professional troll! The best scenario is when you get to insult forever, and the non-trolling/non-fish population either condone it or actually encourage it, because, hey, it is entertaining to watch the shenanigans and outrage ensue. 5. Follow the fish Did the Adam fans abandon QOL because it was too unfriendly and head over to QueenZone? Go to QueenZone. If they leave QueenZone, follow them. 6. When the non-fish/non-trolls catch on This is a tricky one. Because even non-fish/non-trolls can enjoy a good troll, and will often put up with them until either they're tired of the drama, or they become embarrassed by association. In these cases, exit stage left. But don't worry, people have short memories and they like to be entertained. As long as you tailor-fit your troll to the interests of the non-fish/non-troll population, you'll likely be welcomed back. When the fish return, so can you! Good luck, and may the fish ever rise to your bait! |
| Iron Butterfly 03.04.2014 15:49 |
taptap wrote: A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk: There are all kinds of different 'fans' here. 1. QAL fans (like Brian May, Roger Taylor and all those folks filling up the arenas for the 2014 Summer Arena Tour). 2. Adam Lambert fans (like Brian May, Roger Taylor and a whole bunch of others whether they could get tickets to the summer tour or not) 3. Queen fans who don't mind Queen collaborations as long as Brian and Roger are involved. 4. Queen fans who really hate any collaboration not including Freddie and John. 5. Non-fans who really can't stand Adam Lambert There will be serious/non-trolling threads here (usually from people in groups 1-3 above), and then there will be threads insulting Adam and his fans, usually posted by people in groups 4 and 5 above. There will also be trolling posts in the serious discussion threads. It's not really necessary to point out the trolling posts to the whole group - that will be pretty obvious to everyone, trolls and non-trolls alike. If you feel personally harassed, bullied, or hacked, it would be best to PM a mod directly, as no one on these threads can really do anything where trolls, bullies, and hackers are concerned, except ignore them. The QZ mods are YourValentine and Richard Orchard. If you want to debate with or just enjoy the trolling shenanigans, go ahead, but conventional wisdom states it's best not to feed the trolls. They'll always be here (and everywhere else online) but to feed or not to feed is Hamlet's eternal dilemma. If you decide to feed the trolls, you risk getting deleted or IP banned at the QZ mods' discretion. If trolling crosses over to fighting the risk increases (it's not rocket science). So feed the trolls at your own risk.Not so black and white. Are you trying to be a back seat mod here as well? Not your board, and not your say so who can post where and who they can discuss things with. An AL and a Glambert wannabe spokesperson, that's how you are coming across. Ego much? I like Queen a heck of a lot, and I like AL's solo music, before you try to put it out there than I'm not a fan of both. I happen to think AL does not have a rock voice. Still, I and everyone else has the right to post, even though it's getting clearer all the time you want me to keep quiet/or not to post in Q+AL topics... which I will not. A word to QZ members. Taptap is very likely to threaten legal action if one does not see things about AL the way she does, or if she simply doesn't like a person. Which is a trolling tactic in itself. |
| inu-liger 03.04.2014 17:03 |
No offense taptap, but after all the vitriolic garbage you and Carol got up to in the past month here, you're frankly not in a legitimate nor moral position to be writing topics like this. Leave that shit up to Barb and Richard. |
| inu-liger 03.04.2014 17:05 |
Also, you haven't been on the Queen fan scene long enough, never mind involved enough, so that's very hypocritical of you to be writing such slanted definitions. |
| Iron Butterfly 03.04.2014 17:12 |
inu-liger wrote: Also, you haven't been on the Queen fan scene long enough, never mind involved enough, so that's very hypocritical of you to be writing such slanted definitions.She is a wannabe spokesperson for AL, Glamberts and now QZ. Wants/needs/craves total control. |
| taptap 03.04.2014 17:49 |
inu-liger wrote: No offense taptap, but after all the vitriolic garbage you and Carol got up to in the past month here, you're frankly not in a legitimate nor moral position to be writing topics like this. Leave that shit up to Barb and Richard. taptap wrote: No offense, inu-liger, but after all the vitriolic garbage you and YAFF got up to in the past month here, you're frankly not in a legitimate nor moral position to be writing topics like this. Leave that shit up to Barb and Richard. |
| inu-liger 03.04.2014 18:56 |
How original |
| FreddieCat 03.04.2014 20:23 |
Ok. Corn-fessin' time. Tiptap, your post looks alot like my last on QOL. This is why I almost, really in effect, did get tossed on my keester over yonder. Turns out you can't be doin' this 'tall. It ain't good as I discovered. Gotta let the mods do it. Y'all AL'ers have had plenty of trollin' in your neck of the woods. Come off yer high horse!! |
| Iron Butterfly 03.04.2014 20:34 |
FreddieCat wrote: Ok. Corn-fessin' time. Tiptap, your post looks alot like my last on QOL. This is why I almost, really in effect, did get tossed on my keester over yonder. Turns out you can't be doin' this 'tall. It ain't good as I discovered. Gotta let the mods do it. Y'all AL'ers have had plenty of trollin' in your neck of the woods. Come off yer high horse!!QZ prides itself on free speech. I've very rarely seen a thread deleted. I've read here through the years before deciding to join again. I don't know where taptap ever got the idea of posting her own set of rules here, but that's what you get with taptap now more than ever the wannabe spokesperson for AL, Glamberts, and putting this on QZ, and from her of all people?! Yea, so much for hoping everyone who wanted to could discuss AL, pro, con and in between. |
| taptap 03.04.2014 20:50 |
FreddieCat wrote: Ok. Corn-fessin' time. Tiptap, your post looks alot like my last on QOL. This is why I almost, really in effect, did get tossed on my keester over yonder. Turns out you can't be doin' this 'tall. It ain't good as I discovered. Gotta let the mods do it. Y'all AL'ers have had plenty of trollin' in your neck of the woods. Come off yer high horse!! taptap wrote: Your experiences are what they are, but I've had messages from a lot of people who lurk and have seen or heard of the bad treatment glamberts get here. They already know what it's like at QOL, which is why there are only about five regular posters there any more. They'd like to join in, but not under the current conditions. I'm glad that YV has set this out of the way corner for us to talk about the QAL entities. It won't stop the trolls, but it will highlight their activities if they choose to continue them here. Meanwhile the lurkers can watch and wait and decide if they want to join in. Just like you. I have no power here beside that of starting topics, like any member, new or old. Right now we're trying to move the important things from the Serious Topic sub-forum over here, hence my flurry of posts. And contrary to your assertion that I can't do the things I have, I most certainly can, as they're well within the rules of all members. The rules on this sub-forum are the same as in the rest of the site - no more, no less - as set by Barb and Richard. And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle? Not that I don't love the old Mayberry episodes. It's funny, but some of the phrases are difficult to parse. |
| Iron Butterfly 03.04.2014 21:08 |
taptap wrote: taptap wrote: Your experiences are what they are, but I've had messages from a lot of people who lurk and have seen or heard of the bad treatment glamberts get here. They already know what it's like at QOL, which is why there are only about five regular posters there any more. They'd like to join in, but not under the current conditions. I'm glad that YV has set this out of the way corner for us to talk about the QAL entities. It won't stop the trolls, but it will highlight their activities if they choose to continue them here. Meanwhile the lurkers can watch and wait and decide if they want to join in. Just like you. I have no power here beside that of starting topics, like any member, new or old. Right now we're trying to move the important things from the Serious Topic sub-forum over here, hence my flurry of posts. And contrary to your assertion that I can't do the things I have, I most certainly can, as they're well within the rules of all members. The rules on this sub-forum are the same as in the rest of the site - no more, no less - as set by Barb and Richard. And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle? Not that I don't love the old Mayberry episodes. It's funny, but some of the phrases are difficult to parse.So, you are still keeping track and possibly even trying to get more on your side as usual? Good to know(sarcasm) that hasn't changed for you in the past year! If what is said about AL on this site bothers you so much, that you have to make and set your own rules... wow, just wow. Clearly you want everyone to say only good things about AL, you are trying to put up a wall by these so called rules you have made. It comes across as a wannabe mod, spokesperson for AL, Glamberts, and just selfish with the ego you have going in here. If you have mod status and wanted to place your own rules over everyone, that would be one thing. Sorry to break it to you, but you are not a mod. |
| FreddieCat 03.04.2014 21:35 |
Certainly don't want to fight with Glambies. Tiptap, I'm just sayin,' in reading your original post, I now see my mistake with QOL's mod JPL. It's just funny how we see our own mistakes when others make them. I just visited QOL and overall it is bustling. The organization of the topics are really good with a wide and diverse contributors from different eras. With QZ, topics and posters are also really good (actually terrific), but not as organized, for instance, almost a dozen QZ AL threads now exist, mainly on the serious discussion subforum, and many of them are not serious Queen discussions. "And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle?" Because for a big chunk of my youth, that's the way I spoke. Hard to get mad and stay mad when folks communicate in long slow drawls. |
| taptap 03.04.2014 21:52 |
FreddieCat wrote: Certainly don't want to fight with Glambies. Tiptap, I'm just sayin,' in reading your original post, I now see my mistake with QOL's mod JPL. It's just funny how we see our own mistakes when others make them. I just visited QOL and overall it is bustling. The organization of the topics are really good with a wide and diverse contributors from different eras. With QZ, topics and posters are also really good (actually terrific), but not as organized, for instance, almost a dozen QZ AL threads now exist, mainly on the serious discussion subforum, and many of them are not serious Queen discussions. "And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle?" Because for a big chunk of my youth, that's the way I spoke. Hard to get mad and stay mad when folks communicate in long slow drawls.I know most of the AL threads under the serious topic sub-forum aren't actually serious, but if you look closely most of them were not made by glamberts. Now I'm all for being a good guest, but I also expect the hosts to be civil as well. Expecting new members to behave like second class citizens, or run the gauntlet of the trolls, is something you may be willing to do, but not me. And since there are no rules requiring that here, I certainly won't. Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). I know what you mean by accents. When the movie Fargo first came out I was a bit offended by the almost-comic depiction of the Minnesota accents. They had everyone in the movie, from Bloomington (a suburb of Minneapolis) to Fargo (a city in North Dakota, just outside the Minnesota border) talking with the same, thick Iron Range accent like they do in Chisolm. But then I started listening to my friends and co-workers a little closer, and sure enough, almost every native Minnesotan has a bit of that accent, peppered with the ubiquitous phrases like 'yah sure you betcha' and 'uff da!' If you ever hear someone say those two things, you can bet they're from Minnesota - yah sure you betcha :> |
| Iron Butterfly 03.04.2014 23:57 |
taptap wrote:I think you have a bone to pick with QOL/some of it's people.FreddieCat wrote: Certainly don't want to fight with Glambies. Tiptap, I'm just sayin,' in reading your original post, I now see my mistake with QOL's mod JPL. It's just funny how we see our own mistakes when others make them. I just visited QOL and overall it is bustling. The organization of the topics are really good with a wide and diverse contributors from different eras. With QZ, topics and posters are also really good (actually terrific), but not as organized, for instance, almost a dozen QZ AL threads now exist, mainly on the serious discussion subforum, and many of them are not serious Queen discussions. "And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle?" Because for a big chunk of my youth, that's the way I spoke. Hard to get mad and stay mad when folks communicate in long slow drawls.I know most of the AL threads under the serious topic sub-forum aren't actually serious, but if you look closely most of them were not made by glamberts. Now I'm all for being a good guest, but I also expect the hosts to be civil as well. Expecting new members to behave like second class citizens, or run the gauntlet of the trolls, is something you may be willing to do, but not me. And since there are no rules requiring that here, I certainly won't. Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). I know what you mean by accents. When the movie Fargo first came out I was a bit offended by the almost-comic depiction of the Minnesota accents. They had everyone in the movie, from Bloomington (a suburb of Minneapolis) to Fargo (a city in North Dakota, just outside the Minnesota border) talking with the same, thick Iron Range accent like they do in Chisolm. But then I started listening to my friends and co-workers a little closer, and sure enough, almost every native Minnesotan has a bit of that accent, peppered with the ubiquitous phrases like 'yah sure you betcha' and 'uff da!' If you ever hear someone say those two things, you can bet they're from Minnesota - yah sure you betcha :> Your ego is something to behold. Your own set of rules, and clearly you don't want certain others to join in discussions n QZ, which is petty,selfish and a very controlling thing for you to do. You have a horrible, misguided sense of entitlement when comes down to what you want/need, and I know you will stoop very low in trying to get it. |
| taptap 04.04.2014 00:05 |
Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice. It's very zen-like. But I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread! https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1484336_10151803282176498_771907808_n.jpg |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 00:11 |
taptap wrote: Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice. I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread! https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1484336_10151803282176498_771907808_n.jpgRelying on what others have to say as much as ever I see :) So, on Thursday you copied and pasted in 3 threads the same message, and now the same pic in 2 threads. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 09:13 |
taptap wrote: Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice. It's very zen-like. But I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread! https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1484336_10151803282176498_771907808_n.jpgGreat advice -- Charlie Brown always gets it right! |
| FreddieCat 04.04.2014 10:27 |
taptap wrote:Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better.FreddieCat wrote:Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want. Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 11:27 |
FreddieCat wrote:FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!taptap wrote:Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better. Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want. Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.FreddieCat wrote:Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 12:30 |
SweetCaroline wrote:Bullshit, sweetcaroine. Your extent of Queen knowledge is comparing AL with Freddie. Have you figured out yet it was Brian May who wrote SMGO?FreddieCat wrote:FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!taptap wrote:Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better. Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want. Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.FreddieCat wrote:Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). "we need the others to get to know Adam better" Says it all really. Even with Brian and Roger, it's a shout for AL to be known more. The sense of greed and entitlement some of you have where AL is concerned is quite something. I watched many a clip about AL, read many an article about AL, and I still don't think he has a rock voice. Works both ways, yea funny this thread is proof some have it's my way or no way at all where taptap is concerned. It's looking more and more like a cult as time goes on for some of you. If you and taptap want only to talk with each other and your own clique all about AL, well even I know there are other AL sites to do that. |
| taptap 04.04.2014 13:16 |
FreddieCat wrote:taptap wrote:Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better. Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want. Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.FreddieCat wrote:Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events). lolol oh geez, seriously? Adam has no more clue about what I'm doing than Brian and Roger have for what you're doing. I also would be highly surprised if either cared about the online discussion of fans. The arenas are filling up, and those that are opposed won't be there - all fine and dandy with me. I think you take it all far too seriously. We're fans having fun. Sorry, but you've been proslytizing waaay more than I ever have (which is never if you've actually read my posts.). But different strokes for different folks, and perceptions differ. You see what you see, but I think you're far too worried about what other people think of you. Your business of course, just my two cents since you've brought it up several times. Your comment about the forums and threads is strange. I did a count (if was really simple to do), and here are the stats: Serious Discussion sub-forum: 9 Threads (6 by QZ old-timers (polls, goats, sheep, yada yada - not exactly serious stuff), 3 by new members) QPR sub-forum 4 Threads (1 by QZ old-timers (a new poll about what's better than QAL), 3 by new members) We didn't change the sub-forum, YV did. We just moved the discussion over to the QPR sub-forum, as she requested. Three threads is not much for QAL compared to the dozens there for QPR. Why so serious over numbers, especially numbers that are relatively insignificant? |
| taptap 04.04.2014 13:24 |
SweetCaroline wrote:FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways! I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 14:36 |
taptap wrote:I'm encouraged by those fans in London who attended the Hammersmith shows and had a great time. Jeff Scott Soto from QE attended and was singing their praises.SweetCaroline wrote:I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day.FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways! This is a great review from a lifelong Queen fan about the Hammersmith show as well as the comments that follow: link |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 14:41 |
taptap wrote:If you both feel life isn't fair about AL discussions...get a life. Far more important thing to worry about.SweetCaroline wrote:I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day.FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways! Why bother? What else can you talk about other than AL and related things? Queen as a band isn't even worthy as a discussion. You both are so transparent, promote and praise him. sweetcaroline and I dare say you do as well taptap, needs everyone to be a fan, and a "super fan" "obsessive" fan just like you 2. You both want a cult like method about AL where anyone who doesn't see AL the way you both do are on the outside. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 15:07 |
Love this comment from the Mark Gilroy review: "Shadygirl1031 on July 14, 2012 at 7:59 pm said: Mark, I was at first two shows and was just as impressed and emotional as you about these songs. Isn’t it amazing how much better Adam sounds live than what can be heard and seen via video? There are no words to express accurately just how strong and vibrant he voice is live. This man is definitely the most powerful and magnetic singer of our generation and I hope that he can keep showing the world just how amazing he is with Queen and solo. I just wish I’d been able to get a ticket for tonight but had to return to the states. Thanks for such a positive and accurate review of the concert. You can really tap into the heart of the show." |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 16:06 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Love this comment from the Mark Gilroy review: "Shadygirl1031 on July 14, 2012 at 7:59 pm said: Mark, I was at first two shows and was just as impressed and emotional as you about these songs. Isn’t it amazing how much better Adam sounds live than what can be heard and seen via video? There are no words to express accurately just how strong and vibrant he voice is live. This man is definitely the most powerful and magnetic singer of our generation and I hope that he can keep showing the world just how amazing he is with Queen and solo. I just wish I’d been able to get a ticket for tonight but had to return to the states. Thanks for such a positive and accurate review of the concert. You can really tap into the heart of the show."Not sure what is worse. What you have to say about AL, or your relying on other's peoples posts/comments that agree with your views. Either way, it's a very sad and a sorry way to prove your bias. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 16:24 |
Ha! Ha! Another great one: "Vicki Hayes on July 14, 2012 at 8:21 pm said: Mark, Thank you so much for writing about (and capturing) this London concert experience for those of us who so long to be there. Unless you’ve ever been to a live Adam Lambert concert, it’s hard to convey what that atmosphere is like. It’s shimmering electrified magic. And it has to be turbo-charged times 3 with Roger and Brian; what a perfect chemistry the 3 of these superstars–actually all 6 musicians–have together on that stage! I’ve been to 4 live Adam Glam Nation Tour concerts: Nashville, Louisville, Indianapolis (Glam Nation Live DVD), and New Orleans. All were seated venues, but no one sits. The only way to describe it is that it’s like an ongoing, unending standing ovation for Adam. I, too, had never experienced anything like this. It’s simply breathtaking. In Nashville, foot stomping on the wooden floor of the Ryman was added to applause, cheers, and screams. At one pt. the sound became so rhythmic and deafening it was like being in a trance. The haunting, deafening sound of a million crickets chirping in the woods at night in the heart of the Great Smokey Mountains is the only other sound I ever heard that I could compare it to. To me Lousiville was his most elegant, adult, campy GNT show. He was in his stride in a beautiful white wedding cake of a recently restored theatre called The Brown, which is Louisville’s opera venue. Like you, I craved pure Adam voice in this place with perfect acoustics. When he sang Soaked I had a fantasy of jumping on stage and ripping his sparkly microphone out of his hands so we could hear that voice straight up with no electronic amplification. (I did consider it briefly, being about 5 feet from ft of stage :). In my experience I would actually rank Adam’s Glam Nation Tour right up there with Phantom of the Opera for sheer sensory bliss. Actually, if I had to choose, I would pick Adam’s GNT. I can’t begin to imagine what it would be like to experience these London concerts live. Queen and their music are simply brilliant. Their music–ranging from operatic, contemporary classical, jazz, blues, folk, heavy metal, to classic rock–is a spectacular feast for ears and eyes. Queen and Adam are a match made in the stratosphere. I have wondered if Dr. May summoned Adam from some distant planet (Fierce), although Adam’s dad, Eber, once said that Baby Adam had been dropped on their doorstep by Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves ;)." |
| taptap 04.04.2014 16:35 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! Ha! Another great one: "Vicki Hayes on July 14, 2012 at 8:21 pm said: Mark, Thank you so much for writing about (and capturing) this London concert experience for those of us who so long to be there. Unless you’ve ever been to a live Adam Lambert concert, it’s hard to convey what that atmosphere is like. It’s shimmering electrified magic. And it has to be turbo-charged times 3 with Roger and Brian; what a perfect chemistry the 3 of these superstars–actually all 6 musicians–have together on that stage! I’ve been to 4 live Adam Glam Nation Tour concerts: Nashville, Louisville, Indianapolis (Glam Nation Live DVD), and New Orleans. All were seated venues, but no one sits. The only way to describe it is that it’s like an ongoing, unending standing ovation for Adam. I, too, had never experienced anything like this. It’s simply breathtaking. In Nashville, foot stomping on the wooden floor of the Ryman was added to applause, cheers, and screams. At one pt. the sound became so rhythmic and deafening it was like being in a trance. The haunting, deafening sound of a million crickets chirping in the woods at night in the heart of the Great Smokey Mountains is the only other sound I ever heard that I could compare it to. To me Lousiville was his most elegant, adult, campy GNT show. He was in his stride in a beautiful white wedding cake of a recently restored theatre called The Brown, which is Louisville’s opera venue. Like you, I craved pure Adam voice in this place with perfect acoustics. When he sang Soaked I had a fantasy of jumping on stage and ripping his sparkly microphone out of his hands so we could hear that voice straight up with no electronic amplification. (I did consider it briefly, being about 5 feet from ft of stage :). In my experience I would actually rank Adam’s Glam Nation Tour right up there with Phantom of the Opera for sheer sensory bliss. Actually, if I had to choose, I would pick Adam’s GNT. I can’t begin to imagine what it would be like to experience these London concerts live. Queen and their music are simply brilliant. Their music–ranging from operatic, contemporary classical, jazz, blues, folk, heavy metal, to classic rock–is a spectacular feast for ears and eyes. Queen and Adam are a match made in the stratosphere. I have wondered if Dr. May summoned Adam from some distant planet (Fierce), although Adam’s dad, Eber, once said that Baby Adam had been dropped on their doorstep by Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves ;)."Well she is certainly enthusiastic. I think she should try her hand at romance novels, though, because she's got flowery hyperbole down pat. It's fun to see a fan's excitement, but I had to laugh at her comparing the loud theatre with a million crickets. In my head that came out as a bit of a contradiction, but it was cute. Just a bit of trivia, did you know that a large percent of romance novelists are men using women's pen-names? True enough. They learn the 'formula', image ott romantically-inclined women, and go to town. Oops, I'm moving my response to the Adam thread - didn't even notice where this was to begin with! |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 16:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! Ha! Another great one: "Vicki Hayes on July 14, 2012 at 8:21 pm said: Mark, Thank you so much for writing about (and capturing) this London concert experience for those of us who so long to be there. Unless you’ve ever been to a live Adam Lambert concert, it’s hard to convey what that atmosphere is like. It’s shimmering electrified magic. And it has to be turbo-charged times 3 with Roger and Brian; what a perfect chemistry the 3 of these superstars–actually all 6 musicians–have together on that stage! I’ve been to 4 live Adam Glam Nation Tour concerts: Nashville, Louisville, Indianapolis (Glam Nation Live DVD), and New Orleans. All were seated venues, but no one sits. The only way to describe it is that it’s like an ongoing, unending standing ovation for Adam. I, too, had never experienced anything like this. It’s simply breathtaking. In Nashville, foot stomping on the wooden floor of the Ryman was added to applause, cheers, and screams. At one pt. the sound became so rhythmic and deafening it was like being in a trance. The haunting, deafening sound of a million crickets chirping in the woods at night in the heart of the Great Smokey Mountains is the only other sound I ever heard that I could compare it to. To me Lousiville was his most elegant, adult, campy GNT show. He was in his stride in a beautiful white wedding cake of a recently restored theatre called The Brown, which is Louisville’s opera venue. Like you, I craved pure Adam voice in this place with perfect acoustics. When he sang Soaked I had a fantasy of jumping on stage and ripping his sparkly microphone out of his hands so we could hear that voice straight up with no electronic amplification. (I did consider it briefly, being about 5 feet from ft of stage :). In my experience I would actually rank Adam’s Glam Nation Tour right up there with Phantom of the Opera for sheer sensory bliss. Actually, if I had to choose, I would pick Adam’s GNT. I can’t begin to imagine what it would be like to experience these London concerts live. Queen and their music are simply brilliant. Their music–ranging from operatic, contemporary classical, jazz, blues, folk, heavy metal, to classic rock–is a spectacular feast for ears and eyes. Queen and Adam are a match made in the stratosphere. I have wondered if Dr. May summoned Adam from some distant planet (Fierce), although Adam’s dad, Eber, once said that Baby Adam had been dropped on their doorstep by Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves ;)."I wouldn't call that great. *gag* Not sure what that's meant to prove. More hype and praise, pretty much spam if your posts are now going to consist of cut and paste's of other people's comments. |
| SweetCaroline 04.04.2014 17:05 |
One more, from a guy: " Mike Wilkins on July 15, 2012 at 9:31 am said: Well…. I’m a forty something city worker who watched Adam from week 1 of AI and was completely mesmerised by his voice and his wonderfully funny,intelligent and humble personality. I managed to get to Shepherds Bush for Glam Nation (best concert I’ve ever been to, and even had my wife turning round and swearing because of that voice) and have every thing he’s ever recorded on my iPod… And im devastated nay, completely shattered that I didn’t get to Hammersmith :-(. Simply, Adam is the the best vocalist I’ve ever heard. He could sing anything and I’m so happy that this review gives us the truth, without any critic just trying to be clever or contraversial just for the sake of it. Adam is the best singer and just to get how big his range is, listen to his rendition of ‘come to me,bend to me’ from Brigadoon… It’s on YouTube . He was only 22 then. Just listen to it. You will be amazed." |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 17:14 |
SweetCaroline wrote: One more, from a guy: " Mike Wilkins on July 15, 2012 at 9:31 am said: Well…. I’m a forty something city worker who watched Adam from week 1 of AI and was completely mesmerised by his voice and his wonderfully funny,intelligent and humble personality. I managed to get to Shepherds Bush for Glam Nation (best concert I’ve ever been to, and even had my wife turning round and swearing because of that voice) and have every thing he’s ever recorded on my iPod… And im devastated nay, completely shattered that I didn’t get to Hammersmith :-(. Simply, Adam is the the best vocalist I’ve ever heard. He could sing anything and I’m so happy that this review gives us the truth, without any critic just trying to be clever or contraversial just for the sake of it. Adam is the best singer and just to get how big his range is, listen to his rendition of ‘come to me,bend to me’ from Brigadoon… It’s on YouTube . He was only 22 then. Just listen to it. You will be amazed."Gosh, you are hopeless. More praise/promotion/hype, I guess by copying and pasting what others have to say, going as far to use what looks to be real names even is your new tactic. |
| YAFF 04.04.2014 18:12 |
taptap wrote: A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk:snip sanctimonious crap Psst....You are not a moderator....you're a douche nozzle. |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 18:27 |
YAFF wrote:No, she isn't. Just a wannabe spokesperson for AL, Glamberts and 2 who happen to be Glamberts on QZ.taptap wrote: A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk:snip sanctimonious crap Psst....You are not a moderator....you're a douche nozzle. A dream come true for her I'm sure! It's even more nuttier than even I thought possible! |
| inu-liger 04.04.2014 20:24 |
YAFF wrote:And a highly unoriginal poster who along with Carol heavily rely too much on quoting other people's preexisting comments or articles in order to make their arguments.taptap wrote: A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk:snip sanctimonious crap Psst....You are not a moderator....you're a douche nozzle. If this were an academic essay of some sort in an actual educational institution, they would receive embarrassing failing grades based on a glaring lack of original arguments when it comes to defending and promoting their pro-AL cause. |
| Iron Butterfly 04.04.2014 21:30 |
inu-liger wrote:Another failure from taptap/mithril and CNB/sweetcaroline.YAFF wrote:And a highly unoriginal poster who along with Carol heavily rely too much on quoting other people's preexisting comments or articles in order to make their arguments. If this were an academic essay of some sort in an actual educational institution, they would receive embarrassing failing grades based on a glaring lack of original arguments when it comes to defending and promoting their pro-AL cause.taptap wrote: A word to the newbies visiting here, whether you post or simply lurk:snip sanctimonious crap Psst....You are not a moderator....you're a douche nozzle. I grade them and their tactics F. One would've hoped they would have changed since QOL, but no. Just another failure. |
| taptap 12.04.2014 14:03 |
Caroline, did you see that the milkman is being run off QOL? Apparently they're getting tired of him slagging off Queen in his many attempts to get at Lambert! He really was not very bright about that aspect of his trolling, all in all. I think lol'ing at Adam's older fans hit a sensitive chord with the poodle-haired dads on QOL. I expect him here any minute in search of his ubiquitous and favorite trolling fish - the glambert. Or is he here already? 0-0 |
| SweetCaroline 12.04.2014 14:20 |
What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!" |
| taptap 12.04.2014 14:46 |
SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. |
| Iron Butterfly 12.04.2014 14:53 |
taptap wrote:You are cracked for sure, no doubt about it. Who is the other you think he is? Is this how you keep/store your info about other people mithril/taptap?SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. I mean you just have broken your very own set of rules. You have no proof is someone is here or not, but you tare fairly sure he is and posting about it to shit stir.. Major fail dear. |
| SweetCaroline 12.04.2014 15:10 |
taptap wrote:Right! Just look for the nastiest, most juvenile comments and there you have it!SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. |
| Iron Butterfly 12.04.2014 15:17 |
SweetCaroline wrote:You both should take a long, hard look at yourselves. Who was it again who went to a rage a couple weeks back and bleated about not liking me.taptap wrote:Right! Just look for the nastiest, most juvenile comments and there you have it!SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. and many more don't like me because I talked with someone you didn't like. You did... which is small and very close minded to say the least. There you have it. |
| taptap 12.04.2014 15:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote:taptap wrote:Right! Just look for the nastiest, most juvenile comments and there you have it!SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. Well that's true, however his form of trolling is so over the top it's actually entertaining. Good trolls usually are clever, with a fairly high degree of intelligence and sophistication, but he has none of these attributes. And he never gets that people are laughing at him, not with him. He's here for our entertainment, and it's all for free \o/ |
| Iron Butterfly 12.04.2014 15:41 |
taptap wrote:But my dear he isn't here. Yet you think he is, based on no proof whatsoever. Shocking how your mind works.SweetCaroline wrote:Well that's true, however his form of trolling is so over the top it's actually entertaining. Good trolls usually are clever, with a fairly high degree of intelligence and sophistication, but he has none of these attributes. And he never gets that people are laughing at him, not with him. He's here for our entertainment, and it's all for free \o/taptap wrote:Right! Just look for the nastiest, most juvenile comments and there you have it!SweetCaroline wrote: What????? He could indeed be here already under an "alias!"He's pretty to easy to recognize. I'm fairly sure he was the SC umlaut poster, and one other. He cracks me up. |