| Wer-Al_Zwowe 06.07.2013 11:06 |
There's an idea that keeps popping up in my mind from a time to time. Something I really want to do. I want to create what I like to call the ultimate compilation of the Freddie Mercury Tribute concert. So, you might ask, what am I aiming for. I want to create the closest thing to a full version of the concert. So you have the possibility to watch the full concert, as close as possible to what the people in Wembley stadium where able to see (using the professionally filmed footage of the event) without switching in between to the host of the BBC, MTV or whatever other channel. Although some of the interviews they where having, may end up as bonus features. I am also planning on making some bonus features out of news items and maybe I will even be able to cobble a short documentary together. But the big work will go into the event itself. There's only one problem. I don't have all the footage I need to get started. I have all the official releases (and pre-ordered the new one) and I have a digital transfer of the bbc broadcast. But I feel like I could make a better quality transfer. I am trying to use the official releases as little as possible to keep quality more constant. So I am looking for many off the air recordings from different channels. I would prefer to transfer the footage to a digital format myself, because I will have maximum control about the quality of the transfer and I can match settings as close as possible. So it would me fantastic if some of you are willing to lend me your precious recordings. Of course you will get them back after I transferred them. What I am looking for are (first generation copys of): - VHS/Betamax/Video2000 recordings of a tv broadcast (BBC, MTV or another (international?) broadcast) - Cassette/Reel-to-reel recordings of a radio broadcast (I want to upgrade the mono audio from the tv broadcast to stereo using this) - Any kind of amateur recordings made in and around Wembley stadium (Can be useful as reference material or might even, when quality wise good enough, be used to fill in some gaps) - Interviews/news items about the preparation - Other related footage that does not fit in one of the descriptions above. Don't worry about the fact I might already have the footage you have. I expect I am going to switch a lot between different sources, to get the best looking and sounding result. Because of the official release, my finished edit won't be up on Queenzone. But the contributors will get a copy on a set of dvd's. And as a bonus they will get the finished audio track on cd. For all the non contributors, these won't be for sale. |
| pittrek 07.07.2013 03:28 |
Is the BBC transfer you have a 2 DVD set ? If yes, that's unfortunately the same one I have and indeed, it needs a much better transfer (putting 4 hours of rapidly moving pictures to 2 single layer discs is definitely not a good idea). Many people from Queenzone taped the BBC broadcast and still have their tapes, I hope one of them will lend you his tapes. What I can give you is : - BBC RADIO broadcast (almost full from what I remember) - a dutch radio broadcast (not sure about the name of the radio station) - DIFFERENT MIX (mostly notable at All The Young Dudes & The End Of The World) - Dutch TV (Veronica ?) broadcast transfered a few years ago by me (I don't have the tapes anymore) - Polish TV broadcast (also edited and on 2 DVDs) but I think it has slightly better quality than the BBC broadcast 2DVD set - the MTV broadcast - HORRIBLE quality (ripped from youtube) but features rare interviews I have done something silimar like you're planning ages ago, but I was too using the weak BBC TV broadcast as the main source, and I have added tons of interviews and reports about Freddie's death, but again, the quality of my source material was far from good. If anything of this will help you, let me know. |
| dysan 07.07.2013 05:24 |
This week I finally threw my copy of the broadcast away during a house move. I was a bit hasty. |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 07.07.2013 19:26 |
@dysan: Bad to hear I'm about a week to late for your copy. Well these things happen, don't worry about it. @pittrek My copy of the BBC broadcast is a 2 dvd set. So I think it may be the same set indeed. Al the things you list sound interesting to me. Although I don't think I will edit in horrible quality footage from the MTV broadcast, some parts maybe can be used as a reference. And for now, I'm not sure if I will get a better copy of that very broadcast. I hope so, but I just don't know. BTW One of the sub-projects is to restore broadcasts to which I have multiple copies to their best looking complete form. These will become most likely the starting point of my recreated concert experience. |
| . 08.07.2013 08:57 |
I was at this concert but set my VCR to record the live nicam stereo TV broadcast. I also got a top billing credit in the photo section of the DVD release. link |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 08.07.2013 09:43 |
@The Kurgen. The reason I said first generation is because I don't want multi generations of so called video improvement filters in consumer VCR's ruin the footage. I will transfer it, on a professional grade VCR with TBC. And I will save the capture as lossless AVI files. And that's why I want the video signal as pure as possible. The video filtering, if required, will be done digitally, using the captured AVI's as source, so I can tweak the required filter very precise, instead of applying 'good for everything' filters like most VCR's. If your copy looks good, It might be useful for this project. So, yes I would love to see a sample. |
| dysan 08.07.2013 09:58 |
It's really annoying as I hung onto it for years thinking it might be useful to someone - I do forget that not many people would've been old enough to do a good complete recording of the broadcast. I only watched the Bowie bit several times and the rest was unplayed. Oh snap. |
| pittrek 08.07.2013 11:10 |
Here is the MTV broadcast : link - I downloaded it from youtube with the Firefox plugin DownloadHelper as 480p mp4. If you're not able to download it from there, let me know and I'll try to put the downloaded video somewhere. You can anyway check the editing, the interviews and of course the quality online. CDs - if you want the CDs, I can try to rip them and either upload them somewhere or do a personal trade whatever you prefer. The same with the Polish TV broadcast |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 08.07.2013 19:03 |
@pittrek Thanks to the link of the MTV footage. I'm downloading it right now (using YouTube Downloader HD, a tool I used before and happen to like). But I will also contact the YouTube uploader to see if I can get the source tape of this footage. If all your footage is digital, I prefer you to upload it somewhere. It seems faster to me. |
| . 09.07.2013 04:12 |
Wer-Al_Zwowe wrote: I'm downloading it right now (using YouTube Downloader HD, a tool I used before and happen to like)..The original upload is only 480p so you won't get anything like HD |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 09.07.2013 12:45 |
@The Kurgan. I know. But the tool is called like that. |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 23.07.2013 16:03 |
The first footage for this project is transferred to lagarith lossless avi. It is an incomplete VHS recording of the broadcast on the German channel Premiere. It starts at the beginning and ends somewhere halfway "The Show Must Go On". The Premiere broadcast has the feel I am aiming for. No studio footage, just the concert and the inserts. But there are also a few things I do not want to have in my finished version. First of all, there is always a Premiere logo in the top left corner. There are also German speaking voice overs (a male voice translating what is said, a female voice explaining what is going to happen) and there are a few captions with the name of the lady who does the voice overs. It seems to me like the Premiere broadcast was based on a satellite (?) stream for foreign broadcasters. There must be more broadcasters who used the same stream. Maybe even some who didn't add their own logo to it. Or some with the logo in another corner, so I could try to make a merge of two recordings to remove the logo. (I've done something similar before on a shorter video. It can be done, but it can require a lot of adjustment, to match both sources seamless.) |
| pittrek 24.07.2013 04:44 |
In the past I used to have great results with the DeLogo filter |
| Chief Mouse 24.07.2013 04:53 |
Yeah, delogo is good. Check it here: link link |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 07.08.2013 13:32 |
Thanks for the advice about the logo removal. I will try it when I get to the editing stage of my project. But first of all I am trying to collect and digitize the parts required for my compilation. And for that part I have a nice update. Today I received three video tapes. First of all a complete copy of the BBC2 broadcast of the tribute concert. And two tapes containing a lot of footage from MTV europe's Queen & Co weekend (25/04/1992 and 26/04/1992). Although most footage on the tapes are the standard video clips, there are some interviews about Freddie and the tribute concert on it. That can become some nice bonus footage. |
| pittrek 08.08.2013 04:40 |
Wow. That's amazing. Is there any chance to get the BBC broadcast? On at least 4 DVDs? Also do you still need the audio broadcasts? |
| Chief Mouse 08.08.2013 05:57 |
I have a question. What else counts as contribution apart from tapes / footage etc? Because I'm willing to help, but I'm afraid I can't provide tapes or new sources. |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 08.08.2013 12:25 |
@Pittrek The tape with BBC broadcast is not digitized yet. Yesterday I just fast forwarded through the tape to see what's on in. I bought this tape through the Dutch website Marktplaats. Someone had an advertisement with tapes he also was willing to sell separate. And three tapes had a description that sounded like the thing I was looking for. I did not know the actual tv channels recorded. Actually I was expecting to find a broadcast from a Dutch channel. But most Dutch people are able to receive the BBC. I was very curious about what I had bought. ;) Please PM for the BBC broadcast. Actually I am not sure if I need the audio broadcasts. I surely would love to have them available while working on the audio side of this project. But time will tell if I am going to use parts of them or not. I need to listen and compare to know that. @Chief Mouse Actually I am not completely sure how you can contribute. I know you are very capable in tweaking digital video. But that's something I would like to do myself for this project. I just love things like avisynth scripting, editing etc. So on that side I don't think I will need any help. The audio side is also something I would like to do myself. Although you don't have any extra footage yourself, maybe you can help me track down some extra footage. You know, I always keep browsing around for useful footage. In real life and online. Online mostly on sites for second handed goods. Although my scope is probably limited. I use international sites like Ebay and Dutch sites like Marktplaats, Speurders etc.. Maybe you can browse a bit around on similar sites in your country. I am looking for self recorded video tapes, audio tapes etc. containing the Tribute Concert and related footage. Also anything related to Freddie's passing could also be interesting. |
| pittrek 09.08.2013 00:51 |
PM sent |
| princetom 15.08.2013 17:15 |
i don't know if this is common in the scene or had been traded... but i would love to see some more rehearsal videos apart from the three official ones... well, there has to be some material... unless... it seems to be a quite welcome project of yours (and i mean all of you!) to recreate the concert/submission in order to get an ultimate vision. just because QP doesn't manage to do it right... so! i'm looking foreward to your work! have fun creating !!! and thx in advance... |
| kevukuk 16.08.2013 08:19 |
I still have my recording of the original bbc broadcast on 2 vhs tapes if it helps |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 18.08.2013 15:59 |
@princetom: I would also like to see more of that. I would love to see a rehearsal video of Innuendo. But without that video work will go on too. @kevukuk: I would love to transfer that video for this project. Although I already have a complete video of the BBC broadcast, it might be an upgrade for some parts. Thanks a million. |
| bootLuca 27.08.2013 05:53 |
Nice project! I think the audio of the box "thank you freddie" ( link ) is better than the BBC broadcast I have, but it's not complete... if you want I upload an excerpts... Luca |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 27.08.2013 16:58 |
Luca, I think the track list of it is very interesting. I would love some excerpts. |
| bootLuca 29.08.2013 04:45 |
Here you go! :) link |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 29.08.2013 15:47 |
Luca, I like the sound of these excerpts. This can be very useful when I will be creating the audio mix. |
| bootLuca 30.08.2013 08:12 |
Ok, I sent you a PM... |
| popy 04.09.2013 17:47 |
I remember seeing some years ago someone sharing a pre-show footage of the concert. Mainly helicopter shots. I've downloaded it, but since then i've lost it. Does anyone know where to find it? I don't mind if it's only an youtube clip. |
| rynek 11.09.2013 17:58 |
I have a VHS with polish broadcast version which my parents recorded in 1992. it is from the begining to Too much love will kill you. It has i want to break free, barcelona, these are the days of our lives, breakthru, the miracle... videos also with some scenes from the stadium (people looking at videos while preparing the stage for the next guests). It may be useful. Greetings from Poland. Very sorry for my english. |
| rynek 11.09.2013 18:01 |
Unfortunately the VHS is in mono, becouse the video machine was only mono sound input. But sound quality is excellent if you add treble :) |
| princetom 12.09.2013 10:13 |
hi, i don't want to bother anybody. but it would be nice if anybody would have an answer to my following concern: it's about the rehearsals... we all know about those three official releases. but on youtube there's circulating some more stuff... it's "stone cold crazy" and parts of "the show must go on". those recordings use to be included in some kind of documentation material... (which i never have seen before in an official release if i remember correctly) so. my question simply is... what more songs are circulating from the rehearsals - and are common to the queen-scene ? is this about it, or will the future and some generous collector hold more of that material for a possible share in the future ? would be nice if somebody could post some facts... thank you very much! |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 12.09.2013 11:22 |
@rynek. I would love to see your footage. Sounds great to me. @princetom: I know Metallica had a camera crew backstage for the documentary "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica". Unfortunately I did not see that doc yet, but I am planning on seeing it. So no idea if the rehearsal footage of "Stone Cold Crazy" is from that doc. Where did you find the footage of "the Show Must Go On"? The only with Elton John on lyrics, that's not the tribute concert itself, that I am aware of on Youtube is Paris 1997. |
| pittrek 12.09.2013 11:51 |
Yes, the SCC soundcheck is a part of the Metallica documentary. |
| princetom 14.09.2013 09:34 |
Wer-Al_Zwowe wrote: Where did you find the footage of "the Show Must Go On"? The only with Elton John on lyrics, that's not the tribute concert itself, that I am aware of on Youtube is Paris 1997.link starting at 2:24something. |
| pittrek 14.09.2013 10:27 |
princetom wrote:Did you guys ever watch the official DVD or Bluray?Wer-Al_Zwowe wrote: Where did you find the footage of "the Show Must Go On"? The only with Elton John on lyrics, that's not the tribute concert itself, that I am aware of on Youtube is Paris 1997.link starting at 2:24something. |
| princetom 15.09.2013 07:22 |
*lol*. really ? is it official ? i apologize :-) didn't notice. well, i have watched the dvd about a decade ago and fell asleep as far i can remember... so: mea maxima culpa:-) |
| Wer-Al_Zwowe 15.09.2013 07:37 |
It's the documentary on the official release. |
| kevukuk 28.07.2014 13:49 |
Wer-Al_Zwowe, how is this project coming along, are you still working on it? |
| Sarsipo 05.06.2015 08:05 |
The documentary's name was "The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert Doxumentary 10th Anniversary" |
| Sarsipo 05.06.2015 08:06 |
Sorry *Doxumentary* Documentary |
| Sarsipo 05.06.2015 08:27 |
Here are link of the documentary: link link link link link And the last part was missing |
| Barry Durex 23.02.2016 05:54 |
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| SergioAle 26.06.2017 20:27 |
Finally the project is finished? I have a few sources, although they are not the best, but I offer to finish this project, so that we all have a full version of 4 hours and 20 minutes with the complete show. I will need some video and audio sources, attached to mine, in order to make the best possible mix. |
