QueenZone discussion #1315067

brians wig wrote: I've heard that the concert will be broadcast on TV in the Ukraine, Poland AND Holland! Is anyone capable of recording the transmission stream itself and extracting it to the computer inorder to keep the high quality? If not, do you all have Tivo type boxes that will record the transmission onto a hard drive that you can then edit and burn onto multiple DVDs at the highest quality? As you may appreciate, we all need to avoid the situations we had in 2008 where the only TV broadcasts (Ukraine & South America) had 2.5 hours on a single DVD in poor quality.

c-lebrity94 wrote: It will be tomorrow!

c-lebrity94 wrote: There is no hope for Hd version because any of chanels which will broadcasting this concert aren't HD.

LK7771 wrote: does anyone no if its on polish tv as i have a cousin living there who said they would record it for me , but she says she cannot find it in the tv listings . any help appreciated !! ta

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Ok that link for ICTV has a link on side for STB its CT6 the station has a red C in corner and the concert is sheduled on that station 6.00 uk time.

c-lebrity94 wrote: It's Ukraine,me dear =)))but the show will be 16:9

popy wrote:

c-lebrity94 wrote: It's Ukraine,me dear =)))but the show will be 16:9

with MONO sound?

kevinhairsineevans wrote: My stream has been rejected has this happened to anyone else....what other stations are showing it or what radio station is it on quick!!!!!!!!!!

Jon home wrote: Just waiting for "property of queen productions" to pop up on the screen !

pittrek wrote: When should the Q+AL performance start ?

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Yeah ORGE this is good even elton john is good tonight hope the stream carrys on thru queen set

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Yeah ORGE this is good even elton john is good tonight hope the stream carrys on thru queen set

Let us hope, Kevin! This collaboration is some sort of make or break for Queen+, IMHO, so let's hope for the best! (Note that I meant to say "Queen Plus"). Cheers, Ogre-

ghostwithasmile wrote: Those people speak a cool language . I need my enigma machine to understand it.

pietrek1994 wrote: Anyone noticed that during the documentary, a demo of "Teo Torriatte" was played with Brian on lead vocals?

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Yes wasnt sure about who was singing Adam lambert maybe??? lol

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Sample

pittrek wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Those people speak a cool language . I need my enigma machine to understand it.

Actually I'm fascinated by it. I understand cca 20% when I concentrate enough

pittrek wrote:

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Sample

Doesn't work for me :-(

Zebonka12 wrote: Well, so far this is a big reminder of why the idea was so ill-conceived in the first place. Good songs though. Great to see Brian and Roger go through these. I'd pay to go to that any day. Pity about Lambert though.

Bresam wrote: I swear, he's fucked up like 4 times already.

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: What did I miss between KYA an FBG? My connection failed :/

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: What did I miss between KYA an FBG? My connection failed :/

pittrek wrote: Wow, Under Pressure with Brian on double-necked Red Special copy :-)

Bresam wrote:

pittrek wrote: Wow, Under Pressure with Brian on double-necked Red Special copy :-)

Yeah, very surprised. Under Pressure sounds nice too.

The Fairy King wrote: What's with Roger's timing :(

pma wrote: A bit rusty all around, but then again they don't play live constantly. I'm enjoying this show and for one will close my ears to any oddities, I also like that Lambert is being himself on stage, those who expect an imitation of F.M can stick to watching tribute bands.

jozef wrote: Adam Lambert = fucking terrible scream, no human voice ...

Somebody to loveeeee wrote: A shitload of mistakes so far by everyone but it still looks and sounds more natural than anything that Queen+PR ever did. Except for Brian having an argument with Paul ofcourse. That's totally natural.

Zebonka12 wrote: Queen Extravaganza might have the better lead singer at the moment, but nothing beats hearing Brian shred this shit. He's the King.

dave76 wrote: Great show so far.

Zebonka12 wrote: I disagree - Lambert keeps throwing in the same 'because I can' trills that no one needs to hear, ever.

Somebody to loveeeee wrote: Brian will get to do Fairy fellers masterstroke.

pittrek wrote: Love of my life with KEYBOARDS ??? WHY ? :-(

AlexRocks wrote: THANK you Jock3. Some brains now! Sheesh! Where can we see pictures and film for those of us in the U.S. of A.?

pittrek wrote: Why the hell is the audience silent during 39

Zebonka12 wrote: Queen Extravaganza might have the better lead singer at the moment, but nothing beats hearing Brian shred this shit. He's the King.

pittrek wrote: Roger as a drummer sounds absolutely terrible tonight. But as a SINGER - he sounds absolutely amazing

pittrek wrote: Who is the bass player ?

Isle0fRed wrote: I'm wondering, will they use the Budapest Performance for BohRhap

epson wrote: Neil Fairclough is the bassist- he played on the Anthems Tour last year.

Somebody to loveeeee wrote: Very sloooooooooooooooooooow version of IWTBF.

Bresam wrote: Adam Lambert doing his best Michael Jackson impersonation on AOBTD.

Isle0fRed wrote: sheer have a heart attack please

Final Destination wrote: Radio Ga Ga I told you!

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: Guys, this is their FIRST gig together. I repeat, does anybody remember QPR at George, South Africa? Or, for that matter, have you ever compared Return of the Champions with Super Live in Japan? It takes time for people to get used to play with one another. Remember Amsterdam 2002? Give them some time, they are doing fine for a start. I am gladly surprised. But I still hate the vibrato. :) Cheers, Ogre-

Zebonka12 wrote: Roger is really dragging the tempo down. He was struggling to keep up with the synth's tempo at the start of this song. And he was lagging behind Brian on '39. Hit the gym, son!

Zebonka12 wrote: Hearing some really shitty backing harmonies. "does anybody remember QPR at George, South Africa? " Yes I do. Wasn't much of a fan of most of the gig, but I'll say this much - coming out of the gate at the start, Paul Rodgers made a hell of a better impression on me. At least there was some energy. Obviously this can get better with repetition and whatever, and maybe Roger can work on his fitness. But I mean, there's a lot wrong here.

pma wrote: Could Mr. Lambert please stop the constant chronic vocal masturbation and just sing the fucking songs.

Zebonka12 wrote: "Look, I am always optimistic" Believe it or not, so am I. I'm watching the show ain't I?? Hahaha.

brunogorski wrote: Hey, guys, let me ask: They've played something from Innuendo/The Miracle? I wasn't here until now. Thanks :)

brunogorski wrote: Hey, guys, let me ask: They've played something from Innuendo/The Miracle? I wasn't here until now. Thanks :)

brunogorski wrote: Hey, guys, let me ask: They've played something from Innuendo/The Miracle? I wasn't here until now. Thanks :)

MAYniac91 wrote: Let's hope for another little suprise at the end.

MAYniac91 wrote: Let's hope for another little suprise at the end.

Zebonka12 wrote: ... I'm still pissy there was no Bijou.

brunogorski wrote: Who has sung '39? Please, tell me that was Brian!

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

brunogorski wrote: Who has sung '39? Please, tell me that was Brian!

Brian did it. :)

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: Queen live and beer usually brings me to tears. I was holding it up to now, but Freddie on Bo Rhap was too much for me. FREDDIE FOREVER!!!

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: Queen live and beer usually brings me to tears. I was holding it up to now, but Freddie on Bo Rhap was too much for me. FREDDIE FOREVER!!!

Maybe you should change to another beer brand ...No such effect with Heineken though it makes me bark when I drink it and listnen to Lambert

dave76 wrote: Well, there is your cheese on the pizza!

kevinhairsineevans wrote: Glad you enjoyed it orge i had beers all night also good concert and think adam was good he must have been nervous first gig with such a big crowd well done im now a Glambert lol

Somebody to loveeeee wrote: TYMD. This might be the end of Roger Taylor.

MAYniac91 wrote: It'll worked better at the start of this gig!

Zebonka12 wrote: I'm really glad they gave this one to Brian. I was looking away from the computer at the time but was that Roger fucking up the 2nd verse and Brian taking over?

Zebonka12 wrote: I'm really glad they gave this one to Brian. I was looking away from the computer at the time but was that Roger fucking up the 2nd verse and Brian taking over?

eYe wrote: I really liked QPR, but this was just a QUAL (german word). This stupid sheep-a-like almost made me turn the stream off.

MAYniac91 wrote: Hoped for an guest appearence of Elton John!

pma wrote: Victor Cannotsingivich

The Fairy King wrote: I wanna kill the director.

Bresam wrote:

MAYniac91 wrote: Hoped for an guest appearence of Elton John!

lol, Elton John doing WWRY would be more interesting I think.

ghostwithasmile wrote: Okay maybe INNUENDO after WATC?

MAYniac91 wrote:

Bresam wrote:

MAYniac91 wrote: Hoped for an guest appearence of Elton John!

lol, Elton John doing WWRY would be more interesting I think.

On Show Must Go On or BoRap he's done a good job in the past!

Bresam wrote:

MAYniac91 wrote:

Bresam wrote:

MAYniac91 wrote: Hoped for an guest appearence of Elton John!

lol, Elton John doing WWRY would be more interesting I think.

On Show Must Go On or BoRap he's done a good job in the past!

I agree with that, but he's not really the kind of guy to sing We Will Rock You.

bokkepoot wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Okay maybe INNUENDO after WATC?

Better to open a new flask of korn ;)

Zebonka12 wrote: They probably left it off to avoid him trying to sing along with it. "Hey guys listen to this, I'm amazing HOOOOOHEEEEEHOOOHOWEHOWEHOWEHOWHW"

ghostwithasmile wrote: INNUENDO after the commercial break ?

pma wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: They probably left it off to avoid him trying to sing along with it. "Hey guys listen to this, I'm amazing HOOOOOHEEEEEHOOOHOWEHOWEHOWEHOWHW"

LMAO. Hey, but I'll give this a solid 7/10. Lots of room for improvement. Brian was good, but his vocals were weak, but then again he isn't exactly 21 anymore, and he has never had the best vocal technique. Whereas, the dude with the vocal chops should stick to singing the notes and K.I.S.S, no need to jerk off just because you can. Just because you have a dick, doesn't mean you have to touch it all the time.

Somebody to loveeeee wrote:

pma wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: They probably left it off to avoid him trying to sing along with it. "Hey guys listen to this, I'm amazing HOOOOOHEEEEEHOOOHOWEHOWEHOWEHOWHW"

LMAO. Hey, but I'll give this a solid 7/10. Lots of room for improvement. Brian was good, but his vocals were weak, but then again he isn't exactly 21 anymore, and he has never had the best vocal technique. Whereas, the dude with the vocal chops should stick to singing the notes and K.I.S.S, no need to jerk off just because you can. Just because you have a dick, doesn't mean you have to touch it all the time.

But it's so hard!

ghostwithasmile wrote: Well at least they did the drum intro.... Bastards i want INNUENDO

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Well at least they did the drum intro.... Bastards i want INNUENDO

Please keep watching...

Hank H. wrote: Well, some amazing performances (AOBTD, STL), many average performances, some horrible performances. Not bad at all for a first gig. Some nice surprises setlist-wise, but not enough to really excite me - actually a mostly expectable setlist. Adam's great singer for sure, the vibrato sucks though. He's not gonna be a favourite, but honestly: Never in his wildest dreams could Freddie perform some songs the way Lambert just did. I'm not saying he was performing better, certainly not, but strictly technically speaking he's just amazing.

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Well at least they did the drum intro.... Bastards i want INNUENDO

Please keep watching...

I am still tuned in ... Dressed up as the "juggler of the worlds" How much longer i have to wait you think? Innuendo ?

erik41 wrote: I wachted the show.sometimes with a tear in my eyes and a smile on my face.I just loved it.Queen still can rock .

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Well at least they did the drum intro.... Bastards i want INNUENDO

Please keep watching...

I am still tuned in ... Dressed up as the "juggler of the worlds"How much longer i have to wait you think?Innuendo ?

If they don't play it until sunrise, the chances may be weaker :)

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

ghostwithasmile wrote: Well at least they did the drum intro.... Bastards i want INNUENDO

Please keep watching...

I am still tuned in ... Dressed up as the "juggler of the worlds"How much longer i have to wait you think?Innuendo ?

If they don't play it until sunrise, the chances may be weaker :)

Damn lucky me the time diference is 2 hours earlier over here so you sugest I wait for to hours after sunset ? I WANT INNUENDO !!!

Lostman wrote: I recorded the TV broadcast of the Queen concert. The radio station I mentioned in some topic didn't actually broadcast Queen, which upset me. Only Elton was broadcast on this radio station, and I somehow recorded some bits (half of the concert, maybe) because the programme I used was a bit of a dick.

ghostwithasmile wrote:

Lostman wrote: I recorded the TV broadcast of the Queen concert. The radio station I mentioned in some topic didn't actually broadcast Queen, which upset me. Only Elton was broadcast on this radio station, and I somehow recorded some bits (half of the concert, maybe) because the programme I used was a bit of a dick.

Did you record INNUENDO because i missed it

A Word In Your Ear wrote: If I am not Mistaken, During "Dragon Attack" Bass Solo, Didn't Neil play the riff from "Fight From The Inside"?

matt z wrote:
I hope someone can keep this up on youtube sometime soon. I'm stateside and b.r.o.k.e. Wish I had a connection to watch this.
People are now posting it on Youtube.

notimeforlosers wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: If I am not Mistaken, During "Dragon Attack" Bass Solo, Didn't Neil play the riff from "Fight From The Inside"?

He played Son and Daughter.

Hank H. wrote: Well, some amazing performances (AOBTD, STL), many average performances, some horrible performances. Not bad at all for a first gig. Some nice surprises setlist-wise, but not enough to really excite me - actually a mostly expectable setlist. Adam's great singer for sure, the vibrato sucks though. He's not gonna be a favourite, but honestly: Never in his wildest dreams could Freddie perform some songs the way Lambert just did. I'm not saying he was performing better, certainly not, but strictly technically speaking he's just amazing.

dysan wrote: Agreed. Although I'd say Queen were always cabaret rock so AL is still kind of on message. And yes, I hate myself for saying that.

BlackQueen69 wrote: Paul Rodger's at least is from the same generation as Queen, but they also sounded forced...Everything post Mercury has sounded forced IMO....like I said, lambert has a very strong voice, but he's lacking that something...and like someone else mentioned, he's not a rock singer....

pittrek wrote: Lacking something ... Maybe talent ?

ptr wrote: 1.) My opinion: FM >> PR >> Martel >> average level of singers on Tribute 92 >> Lambert. This was the worst concert with Queen songs I have EVER heard.

2.) Simply said - he cant sing! He has range, but he cant use it... His vibrato is totally unlistenable and he is not able to control it. All songs were butchered with this. Other than that he has awful tone in high notes. BTW would you recognize beginning of Dont Stop Me Now without knowledge of lyrics? Awful awful awful!

3.) He was completely lost in some songs. He simply didnt know how to sing them and sadly - he can not improvise, he is not able to "cover" it.

4.) During the whole concert, there was not even one track that I would say "ok pretty good, this type of stuff fits him"... nothing. Badly sung songs were followed by terribly sung songs. Best tracks were songs without him.

5.) His stage performance is embarrasing and insulting.... What was that foolery in the Another One Bites The Dust???

Paul, all forgiven, please come back!

Daniel Nester wrote: ptr wrote:1.) My opinion:FM >> PR >> Martel >> average level of singers on Tribute 92 >> Lambert. This was the worst concert with Queen songs I have EVER heard.ABSOLUTELY agree. This was simply the worst concert which included both Brian and Roger.I don't see how this even compares with the Queen's Day gig in Netherlands. Or the first 46664. 2.) Simply said - he cant sing! He has range, but he cant use it... His vibrato is totally unlistenable and he is not able to control it. All songs were butchered with this. Other than that he has awful tone in high notes. BTW would you recognize beginning of Dont Stop Me Now without knowledge of lyrics? Awful awful awful!I ABSOLUTELY agree with the first part. But I am able to forgive him that he forgot the lyrics, it was his first time with Brian and Roger.Paul forgot lots of lyrics on the first gigs. And let's not forget Freddie, let alone Anastacia. These tone and vibrato opinions aren't scientific facts.  We have heard of Shirley Bassey, haven't we?3.) He was completely lost in some songs. He simply didnt know how to sing them and sadly - he can not improvise, he is not able to "cover" it.Of course he CAN'T improvise - he's not a musician, but a kid from some stupid reality show. Give him 20 years and he WILL be good. But not now.I don't get how we're just dismissing this guy's talent entirely. Scorched earth criticism doesn't really get us anywhere.  4.) During the whole concert, there was not even one track that I would say "ok pretty good, this type of stuff fits him"... nothing. Badly sung songs were followed by terribly sung songs. Best tracks were songs without him.The only songs I liked were the songs sung by Roger, then Brian and then the taped Flash intro.Christ, are we really going to say Roger singing in front of 100,000 Ukrainians WORKS? That his whispering "ooh yeah" at the end of TWTDOL is in any way adding to the song? Or he doesn't look like a deer in headlights sometimes?  Giving Roger a turn or three at lead vocals is awesome. It's super to give him props as a singer and a songwriter.  But to say this is his proper lead vocal context is kind of ridiculous.  If Brian and Roger were to do their-vocals-only deep catalogue shows, they would be in small- or mid-sized theaters, full of Queen fanclub faithful. And it would be great, we can all agree.  But that will never happen.  Get over it!  It also doesn't work for thousands of Ukrainians who want to hear WWRY for the millionth time.  Seems a lot of us are projecting what we WANT to happen and WANT to work, rather than what does or did.  WWTLF with Lambert, for example, was probably the best I'd seen/heard since Freddie.  Easily. In AOBTD, he did the second verse better than Freddie, technically-speaking.  The list could go on, but of course we want to focus on his femme-y ways, and how he wouldn't be able to sing Son and Daughter.5.) His stage performance is embarrasing and insulting.... What was that foolery in the Another One Bites The Dust???He looked like a scared and lost child during many songs. Well he COULD get better at least with this.Oh, it's called call-and-response. Freddie did for 20 years.  It's a common stadium rock technique pioneered by Queen.

Daniel Nester wrote: ptr wrote:1.) My opinion:FM >> PR >> Martel >> average level of singers on Tribute 92 >> Lambert. This was the worst concert with Queen songs I have EVER heard.ABSOLUTELY agree. This was simply the worst concert which included both Brian and Roger.I don't see how this even compares with the Queen's Day gig in Netherlands. Or the first 46664. 2.) Simply said - he cant sing! He has range, but he cant use it... His vibrato is totally unlistenable and he is not able to control it. All songs were butchered with this. Other than that he has awful tone in high notes. BTW would you recognize beginning of Dont Stop Me Now without knowledge of lyrics? Awful awful awful!I ABSOLUTELY agree with the first part. But I am able to forgive him that he forgot the lyrics, it was his first time with Brian and Roger.Paul forgot lots of lyrics on the first gigs. And let's not forget Freddie, let alone Anastacia. These tone and vibrato opinions aren't scientific facts.  We have heard of Shirley Bassey, haven't we?3.) He was completely lost in some songs. He simply didnt know how to sing them and sadly - he can not improvise, he is not able to "cover" it.Of course he CAN'T improvise - he's not a musician, but a kid from some stupid reality show. Give him 20 years and he WILL be good. But not now.I don't get how we're just dismissing this guy's talent entirely. Scorched earth criticism doesn't really get us anywhere.  4.) During the whole concert, there was not even one track that I would say "ok pretty good, this type of stuff fits him"... nothing. Badly sung songs were followed by terribly sung songs. Best tracks were songs without him.The only songs I liked were the songs sung by Roger, then Brian and then the taped Flash intro.Christ, are we really going to say Roger singing in front of 100,000 Ukrainians WORKS? That his whispering "ooh yeah" at the end of TWTDOL is in any way adding to the song? Or he doesn't look like a deer in headlights sometimes?  Giving Roger a turn or three at lead vocals is awesome. It's super to give him props as a singer and a songwriter.  But to say this is his proper lead vocal context is kind of ridiculous.  If Brian and Roger were to do their-vocals-only deep catalogue shows, they would be in small- or mid-sized theaters, full of Queen fanclub faithful. And it would be great, we can all agree.  But that will never happen.  Get over it!  It also doesn't work for thousands of Ukrainians who want to hear WWRY for the millionth time.  Seems a lot of us are projecting what we WANT to happen and WANT to work, rather than what does or did.  WWTLF with Lambert, for example, was probably the best I'd seen/heard since Freddie.  Easily. In AOBTD, he did the second verse better than Freddie, technically-speaking.  The list could go on, but of course we want to focus on his femme-y ways, and how he wouldn't be able to sing Son and Daughter.5.) His stage performance is embarrasing and insulting.... What was that foolery in the Another One Bites The Dust???He looked like a scared and lost child during many songs. Well he COULD get better at least with this.Oh, it's called call-and-response. Freddie did for 20 years.  It's a common stadium rock technique pioneered by Queen.

Daniel Nester wrote: Sometimes artists make image choices that get in the way of communicating their music for some and leverage it's [sic] message for others. This is the kind of nonsense the 2000-plus Deity Poster Club throws around all the time on Queenzone fora, and, for sentient beings at least, leaves them scratching their heads and run away screaming. What the frick does that quote mean? "Image choices"? The same could be said of Freddie, frankly. White leather shorts aren't everyone's cup of tea. I'd like to hear a *single* example of *any* artist who made image choices that didn't get in the way of communicating for some and didn't leverage its message for others. Or, put another way, any artist who does *not* make image choices that do same? It's more than a little disingenuous to throw around the term "femme" as regards an openly gay person and not think it's not approaching homophobic, or intentionally naive, or just-don't-know-the-connotations-of-words/ The real head-scratcher, however, the Lady Ga Ga counter-example. There haven't been many heterophobic hate crimes, for example, at least none documented. Maybe you mean rape? At any rate, I have plenty of good things to say about Adam Lambert, his singing, his image. Sometimes tight leather pants and spiky shoulders works, even for uptight heteros.

Gregsynth wrote: I'll be writing complete review on the performance in the next day or so (I'll make sure I get it done before I head off to New York City), but I'll quickly summarize it: It was a pretty good first show (lots of nerves/errors in spots--but it's completely excusable), and for the 1st half, Adam did better than what I predicted (and left his EMA performance in the dust). I thought he was going to be off the wall/obnoxious, and oversing the songs to death--but I was taken aback by some performances (he actually did JAZZ TOUR phrasing on the fast WWRY--and didn't hit the A4s), and it shows that when he controls himself, he can get the job done pretty well. The Roger Taylor/Brian May sections were great (nice Roger vocals on AKOM), and that bass player is awesome. The second half had Adam starting to get back into old habits (out of control vibrato, and very pitchy on some songs), but I'm going to give him a pass on this one and chalk it up to "1st show nerves." By the time the Hammy gigs come up, I'm sure everybody will be well-oiled. I'll be waiting for the next show!

Daniel Nester wrote: Holly -- The entire post was trying to parse a single sentence of GF's previous response. That sentence makes no sense. Perhaps it's a reading level issue on your part; I can't tell from my lofty perch. Safe to say that trying to explain away Adam Lambert by making a blanket statement so ridiculous and non-sensical has its hazards. As for a typo--horror!--in my post and my use of sic, yes, guilty as charged. It's not universal or established style to italicize "sic"; I work from the MLA manual. Anyway, it's one of my pet peeves getting "it's/its" wrong, especially when the author is trying to sound like he or she know everything about Adam Lambert and all artists everywhere. The it's/its error is not as bad, however, as forgetting to use two commas before and after "however," which you do in your post. It makes it seem like you're trying to "follow" this person named "however."

Daniel Nester wrote: This still leaves me perplexed, and anyone who cares about the English language should.

Daniel Nester wrote:He's [sic] trying to say, I think, that Adam Lambert turns him [sic] off, and Lambert belongs to an exclusive club of artists who make choices of presentation that alienate some and attract others.  As if every other artist since the beginning of time doesn't do that already!

queenman!! 12321 wrote: I just listened to thwe whole concert for the third time and I noticed some annoying background voacals during the songs..... is that Rufus Taylor??? That may explaines why song harmonies of Roger sound so well maybe....

GratefulFan wrote:[/b  Utterly apart from all that, for many there is much to dislike about his tone, his delivery, his instincts, his musicality and his taste.  The delusion that liking his output on whatever level is somehow superior to and more reasonable and enlightened than not liking his output is a virus that has infected QZ for months now. The amount of time spent on arrogantly dressing down people for not liking a douchey American Idol contestant and saying so is equal parts amusing and annoying.  Get over yourselves.   Really.I'm years of life experience and personal enlightenment past needing to conspicuously and self consciously fly my freak flag in support of gay homies everywhere.  In an instance like this I'm content to let all human beings stand or fall on their faces, glittering and otherwise, on merit.  Let me know when you catch up.  You'll like it here--it's a lot less awkward and incoherent.

pittrek wrote: For the THIRD time ? Wow, you're seriously brave ! I still didn't find the courage to watch it the second time :-)

Missreclusive wrote:Can I buy the last paragraph from you and use it? heh

someonewholikesadam wrote: Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. Don't you know that 90% of Glamberts are not teenyboppers but, instead, retarded middle-aged women? You have us mixed up with Beliebers.

Daniel Nester wrote: Inu, I dunno, actually. Guess I made assumptions about GF's gender, or defaulted to the masculine.

Daniel Nester wrote: One frequent message of Lambert's image, performances and words is "Gay gay gay! I'm gay! Look at me! I'm gay! Has everybody noticed that I'm really hip and gay? No?  Let me french my guitar player on national prime time TV so it's clear.". I deeply appreciate that homophobia is still a scourge on the existence of too many gay human beings and that an artist like Lambert can play a role in incremental cultural change. However as an observer I claim the common privilege of criticism of artists and the arts to note that I think his effectiveness on that message is limited and less than that of other artists who are simply better at communicating it without being so on the nose, self serving and incessant.  Or maybe he just likes doing stuff like that, and that it comes naturally out of performing . Keep digging your idiocy further, GF. You might remember Mick Jagger licking Ron Wood on Saturday Night Live (link before Adam Lambert did such an absolutely UNCONSCIONABLE thing, or Perry Farrell and Dave Navarro sticking fingers up each others' asses on their first two (and awesome!) world tours. Or, you know, Freddie Mercury wearing Glenn Hughes outfits. Or you may not remember these things; that's fine.  The big takeaway, now that we have an actual example of an artist "leveraging" his or her message: GratefulFan will have no homo acts onstage! That shit is just not allowed, motherfucker! This, however, is the kicker:I'm years of life experience and personal enlightenment past needing to conspicuously and self consciously fly my freak flag in support of gay homies everywhere. Whew. Man, alive. I'm sure that such a fricking relief for you now, such a weight off your shoulders. I'm sure you were such a supporter of "gay homies" before, and now you're just reaping the benefits.I'll end with a random quote from GratefulFan, part of hundreds of threads where he complains about Paul Rogers -- At some point I think you do have to start adjusting your filter for people who seem to be perpetually mad at everything and everyone that doesn't conform to whatever it is they think others ought to think/do/be. Like it or not, that does indicate a tendency to raging ego at least sometimes, or perhaps more accurately egocentrism. Yep. He might want to follow his own advice.

Daniel Nester wrote: Inu, I dunno, actually. Guess I made assumptions about GF's gender, or defaulted to the masculine.

pittrek wrote: You REALLY enjoy it ? But they DIDN'T play Innuendo :-)

Daniel Nester wrote: Grateful, I like the no-response response.  I guess you'll have to enforce a No Outward Homo-Acting Message-Leveraging Onstage Policy yourself? Maybe they have special glasses for that? There are some Queen videos you might want to expunge from your collection, if you actually own them.  Or you could just watch Little River Band concerts for the rest of your life.  Either way, all the best. Holly, you just don't make any sense. I could use school-taunts or whatever, but I'm fine listening to yours.  I've heard worse.  I've resigned myself long ago to what this site has about, which has been overrun by dull and boring people like you. You'll be hitting 3400 posts soon. Congratulations. Such a milestone.

on my way up wrote: But, FM had an immense musicality and this is the biggest difference, of course coupled with the fact that Freddie's timbre is so much more beautiful and steady from lower notes to higher ones. Freddie even knew to sing effectively with limited range. That's something AL can only dream off... Whenever he does adlibs or improvised lines...he just hasn't got it to do that imho. For example in STL... FM could fill up those 2 or 3 minutes at the end of the song with beautiful improvisations...AL --> forget it!

The Real Wizard wrote:

on my way up wrote: But, FM had an immense musicality and this is the biggest difference, of course coupled with the fact that Freddie's timbre is so much more beautiful and steady from lower notes to higher ones. Freddie even knew to sing effectively with limited range. That's something AL can only dream off... Whenever he does adlibs or improvised lines...he just hasn't got it to do that imho. For example in STL... FM could fill up those 2 or 3 minutes at the end of the song with beautiful improvisations...AL --> forget it!

Bingo. Freddie could do far more with one octave than Lambert does with three. But comparisons aside - if Lambert would just sing the bloody song, he would actually be doing a far better job.

The Real Wizard wrote:

on my way up wrote: But, FM had an immense musicality and this is the biggest difference, of course coupled with the fact that Freddie's timbre is so much more beautiful and steady from lower notes to higher ones. Freddie even knew to sing effectively with limited range. That's something AL can only dream off... Whenever he does adlibs or improvised lines...he just hasn't got it to do that imho. For example in STL... FM could fill up those 2 or 3 minutes at the end of the song with beautiful improvisations...AL --> forget it!

Bingo. Freddie could do far more with one octave than Lambert does with three. But comparisons aside - if Lambert would just sing the bloody song, he would actually be doing a far better job.

Daniel Nester wrote: Zebonka, I don't really fall back on anything when I don't like what Adam Lambert sings, but safe to I don't say I don't like how he once kissed a member of his band or projects/leverages the wrong message.

Zebonka12 wrote: I liked this thread a lot more when it was about the music.