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Earls Court 77
| Posted on 11.03.2004 01:01:33 | |
| Does anyone agree with me that the Earls Court film is actually a pretty poor gig? I don't understand why it has been so praised. I totally understand why it's never been released. Record collector from 1994 made it sound truly wonderful. For a start Freddie is in pretty bad voice - compare to the Vastly superior Hyde Park show; His voice is often breaking and he never goes falsetto. Rogers backing vocals are even worse than usual. Brian comes across as gormless and tries too hard to have a personality. The audience (who frustratingly are never shown) are completely flaccid and the band come across as desperate and pathetic trying to get them excited with pleas of 'you've been kind of cool but ... come on!' Can anyone agree with me that this show is ... not the best? |
| Posted on 11.03.2004 10:04:18 | |
| Speaking of Freddie's voice, in Hyde Park it was far from perfect. But I agree that Earls Court is pretty much overrated - on the other hand, it was my favourite gig when I had just a few bootlegs :) I personally don't like the long pauses between the songs and the fact that the audience was so calm didn't help either. |
| Posted on 11.03.2004 14:24:32 | |
| In the hyde park gig at least Freddie sang in falsetto during parts of 'You take my breath away' and 'Lap of the gods'. I don't like it when he drops an octave rather than singing it properly. |
| Posted on 11.03.2004 18:43:12 | |
| I think Freds voice at Hyde park is quite poor, at least at Earls court he is giving as much as he could with his voice. This is probably going to be released, but if you want Freddie in great voice you really need Houston to be released, I suggest on one particular day in the near future we all bombard Brian May's letters page with demands for Houston '77 to be released on DVD. At least it will make him listen. What does everyone think ? |
| Posted on 11.03.2004 20:15:51 | |
| I think bombarding Brian May's letter box is a truly terrible idea frankly. Have a bit of respect for your idol! We can't just demand something like that! OK sorry rant over!!! Also about Earl's Court: the audience were quiet because they weren't miked up! (I'm guessing) nor should they have been cos this was just a recording off the feed to the video screens wasn't? Just like the Earl's Court portion of the Led Zeppelin DVD. The audience, I reckon, are just being picked up by the 4 vocal mics and mics on the drums etc etc |
| Posted on 12.03.2004 01:06:55 | |
| I think it is a great idea, get his arse in gear, sod the musical, o.k. so the musical is very good but he has been promoting it now for about 2 years solid, its like going around the world and promoting LAWS for the same amount of time. I am bored with this stupid bloody musical and think its about time he started thinking about the real Queen fans, how many times does he want us to go and see it for Christ sakes. Sorry for the rant, I am a bit drunk having just come in from the pub. |
| Posted on 13.03.2004 12:23:12 | |
| I agree with mikusguitarius - I think Brian (and Roger for that matter) should be free in what he decides to do and pursue. The band Queen are no more, and have been no more for over 10 years. So really, the record company or the remainder of the band do not have to deliver any products at all. We are very fortunate to see the releases (and musicals etc) we have, and I think fans have become far too greedy and want it all (and want it now! :-) I'm sure if this behaviour goes ahead, there will be no releases at all as it could appear to Brian, Roger and Queen Productions that whatever they release, the fans will never be happy! I think we should be grateful for what we have and wait patiently for the next release. Appologies for the Stepford attitude, but that is the reality of the situation. They are the collective body for the band and we are the fans. Although we the fans keep the band in business and it is very nice for them to listen to our views and take them on board, I feel that this sort of behaviour show a total lack of respect and abuses the position we have with the band. |
| Posted on 14.03.2004 21:51:10 | |
| David - so glad someone agrees with me! Also you put it much better than I could anyway so cheers! One more thing: I would love to see the Albert Hall Another World gig released on DVD but the artist - Mr May - thinks it was a poor gig so is reluctant to release - AND THAT'S COMPLETELY HIS RIGHT ISN'T IT?! |
| Posted on 15.03.2004 03:00:54 | |
| The great thing about Earls Court is that it's complete - please correct me if I'm wrong -. That's why also I think it'd be stupid to release it on DVD, as well as the mic problems here and there. It'd be great if they released Rainbow complete: with Flick Of The Wrist and all of that. |
| Posted on 15.03.2004 18:11:21 | |
| If QP release the earls Court dvd it woulb be better to be the second night (7.6.77)... |
| Posted on 15.03.2004 19:23:12 | |
| I would like to see a DVD set like the Led Zeppelin one which ties up the incomplete and poor performances. Maybe not a commercial success, but a definate fan favourite. But theres wanting and having... |
| Posted on 31.03.2004 14:32:16 | |
| Earls Court should be released officially. It's one of the best (qualitywise) Queen have in their archives. Just check from Magic Years and Rare Live. The Earls Court bits are in the best quality from all of them. If they had some minor mic-problems they can always take some of the songs from the other night (either 6.6. or 7.6), since the camerapositions were the same, and both concerts look alike. Earls Court 77, Frankfurt and Vienna 82 seem to be the best quality-stuff Queen have in their archives. They have the multitrack-copies so it is easy to polish them even more. |
| Posted on 31.03.2004 21:07:43 | |
| Yeah but getting Freddie (and even John!) to do the neccesary overdubs may be tricky...! |
| Posted on 31.03.2004 21:13:00 | |
| I'm not sure if they have to doo any overdubs. As they have 2 shows in the archive, they can do for example this: Freddies mic fell from his hands during the pre-chorus of Tie Your Mother down at the first night. Well...they might copy that line from the previous night (the tempo was nearly the same I presume) and voila. There you have it. Thanks to ProTools, they can do virtually ANYTHING with these shows.... |
| Posted on 01.04.2004 01:55:57 | |
| Picture quality doesnt even come into it, its performance quality which will make an entertaining DVD. I was amazed by the picture quality on the WWRY DVD and loved it for a short while, but it just bores the tits off me again now. |
| Posted on 01.04.2004 09:16:26 | |
| In WWRY the miserable audience helped a lot to create an average vibe. I think Earls Court will be one of the best early shows, if it will be released. Rainbow could be good, if it was complete, Hammersmith isn't that great performance from the band. Besidesm the latest "Rock masters"-tv program from that show, that the sound is somewhat tinny. They don't have the master tape. And the setlist is quite poor, all the interesting songs are dropped out. Hyde Park is out of the question. May's guitar isn't in tune, thanks to rain, and the material isn't in that good condition. So what do we have left? Earls Court 77! |
| Posted on 01.04.2004 13:33:45 | |
| Well, it's only my opinion but I strongly disagree. IMO Hammersmith Odeon has a brilliant setlist and brilliant band performance. Earls Court had a poor audience and the show was somehow slow, long breaks between songs etc. |
| Posted on 02.04.2004 03:37:00 | |
| It should be better that if Earls Court is released QP chose the second night... but IMO Xmas 75 is a better show, it would be really nice to have it officially released in its full length ;) |
| Posted on 02.04.2004 07:24:10 | |
| Maybe the second night is ok? At fisrt night there were vocal mic problems during first two songs and a loud bang during "You Tkae My Breath Away". At least we know that the Killer Queen in Rare Live comes from the second show (allthough missinformed on the video that it came from the first night) XMas is a good show. I just don't like the idea of omitting "Sweet Lady", "Prophet's Song", "Flick of The Wrist", "Doing Allright"... Freddie and Brian were sick, even though it doesn't seem like that much. The low point is, that I highly doubt that anybody has the real master-tape from this. It was sent 3 yars ago "re-mastered" here in Finland. The sound was just improved from the bootleg version I already had. Same tinny over-all sound is there. |
| Posted on 03.04.2004 18:29:06 | |
| Lets all write Brain May a letter. Lets make an electronic petition for the release of Houston '77. Lets see what he will do. I'm tired of the Live at Wembley series. The energy level of the band is not the same as it was on that night in Houston. By the time 1986 was around, Freddie had stopped using cocaine due to learning about his illness. If you compare Japan '85 with London 86, Freddie moves around less. I guess Freddie found out about his HIV between Rio '85 and the Magic Tour. |
| Posted on 04.04.2004 12:06:08 | |
| ...and you suggest that Freddie was good performer when he took cocaine?! Didn't you know that he was clean for all the drugs on their 5 first tours or so. Houston would be cool, but I don't think it can be released in its entirety.... The setlist is good also. (allthough Earls Court 77 has the old gems: doing allright, white qeen, ogre battle....). Only low point is the uselles vocal-effect crap they do between white man and prophet's song. Prophet's Song was just great on A Night at the Opera tour. Why did they have to alter the vocal canon by using that annoying effect on the later tours? |
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